It’s quite well possible to be a good Muslim and still enjoy a drink once in a while.
It is a general assumption that Muslims can not drink alcohol. Not that all believers of Islam go through life sober, but still it’s considered a sin to have a beer. Well, we did a lot of research and in this story we will explain to you why this assumption is wrong. Muslims are indeed allowed to drink. Wine is even glorified in their holy book the Quran and the prophet Muhammad himself drank too. We hope that soon everywhere in the Middle East the sounds of glasses bashing into eachother will replace those of gunshots. Here we go…
The first thing we need to do is to establish that drinking alcohol is not prohibited by the Quran as is claimed by many. There are three passages that hint in this direction. However not in a single occasion it is called haraam, or forbidden by God, like pork meat for example. Here are the three passages:
Quran 2:219 “They ask you concerning alcoholic drinks and games of chance. Say: in them are harm and goods for men, but their harms exeeds their good effects.”
Quran 4:43 “Do not approach prayers while you are drunk.”
Quran 5:90 “O you who believe! Intoxications and gambling, (dedication of) stones and (divination by) arrows are an abomination of Satan’s handwork: so avoid it that you may prosper.”
Yes, alcohol is not being encouraged here. Although it is said that there are good sides to it, the emphasis is on the bad effects. Still it seems more like an advice not to drink as long as you don’t do your prayers drunk. We understand that talking to God with a double tongue is probably not the greatest idea, but as long as you keep that in mind there isn’t a good reason to chose for abstinence.
Now that we established that let’s check out another passage from the Quran that speaks of alcohol:
Quran 16.67 “And of the fruits of the date palms and the grapes, you obtain alcoholic drinks and goods. Verily in that is a sign for a people who use their understanding.”
In this verse without a doubt is said that God bestowed grapes and dates upon people, so they can make alcoholic drinks from them. That’s right, wine making is encouraged here.
Since we know for sure now that alcohol was not prohibited, but even encouraged, it’s interesting to see how the prophet Muhammad handled his liquor. There are plenty of examples in the Hadiths (tales about Muhammad’s life that are used to understand the meaning of the Quran) that prove he indeed drank alcohol. Here is the most interesting one:
Muslim 3753 “We were with the prophet of Allah and he was thirsty. And a man said: ‘O prophet of Allah, do you want to drink wine?’ Prophet of Allah said: ‘Yes’. The man went to get the wine. The prophet of Allah said: ‘Make it intoxicated’. And he drank.”
Because the Arabian word that was used ‘nabeed’ can also mean alcohol free wine, the addition by the prophet that is must be intoxicated is a very valuable one. There are plenty more passages where Muhammad is drinking wine, both in the morning and in the evening. In many cases the Islamic opponents of alcohol can hide behind the double meaning of the word ‘nabeed’, but in the last habith the Arabic word ‘khamra’ is used, which means alcohol.
And actually Muhammad wasn’t the only one drinking, so did his companions. Anas Bin Malek serves alcohol in Muslim 23, 4884 and 4886. The Mujahedeen drank it in the Battle of Uhud and the prophet’s uncle Hamza even got drunk. When he did, Hamza got mad and Muhammad was scared. This was probably one of the reasons for him to disencourage people to drink too much. There’s also a tale that angels from Allah get drunk and kill a child. Another indication that bad stuff comes from drinking of course.
Still the conclusion must be that although moderation of alcohol is encouraged in Islam, it is absolutely not prohibited. The Quran states nowhere that it is haraam or sinful. The prophet Muhammad himself that is a role-model for Muslims himself drank wine, just like his companions and Jesus, who in Islam is also considered a prophet. Now that’s one less reason to fight between religions and one more reason to celebrate. Nice to know with the Sugar Feast coming up this week too. So to finish in Arabic: besaha!
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You need to open up Qur’an.Qur’an is the major authority for us if it prohibits us nothing can allow a thing.
And just by the way are you even a Muslim?I think you are not so please refrain from posting such misleading articles or so.
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No sir. I am not a Muslim,but I have many Muslim friends here in Holland. Great guys and some of them drink. It has always bothered me that some other Muslims say that they are bad because of this. That’s why it was so interesting for me to do research on the matter.
The text as presented above is how I interpretated what I read about alcohol in Islam. I showed it to 2 Muslim friends (one a drinker, one not) before publishing and both agreed that there were no content errors in the text.
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Right of freedom of speech certainly does not refer to the idea that i go and start punching you in the face without any reason.Likewise,there are some sensitive areas which cannot be covered by liberty of freedom of speech as well.You cannot certainly support holocaust because that would hurt the sentiments of the Jews,which makes sense.So when it’s about Islam why do we forget that here the sentiments of Muslims also get hurt.
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Hahahaha come on… Did you compare the death of 6 million people to the interpretation of books? Nice going there mate.
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“death of 6 million people”
Those figures have been proven wrong many years ago, please don’t buy into Jewish sympathizer articles the lies of the allied nation and western media from the 40s all the way to now amazes me.
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Well…. Even if it was just 100 people. It’s still mass murder.
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The Palestinians die of mass murder, too. By the Jews’s bloody hands.
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Uhm yes they do… Not sure how this is relevant for this topic but okay…
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What has punching someone in the face got to do with anything? Why are so many muslims so weirdly oversensitive to stuff like this? Why are your sentiments so hurt by someone saying you could have a drink if you want to? Bizarre.
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You did not post my comment where I advised you to open up Qur’an.
Trying to take away my freedom of speech?
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Refresh… It should be there!
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That’s the problem with most of the people that they do not do self study rather they rely on other people or usually media reporting.
The text which you have shared is not correct!You should open up Al-Quran that’s the MAJOR AUTHORITY.I can share a lot of other texts which discourage the drinking of alcohol.
And yes my beloved Prophet Mohammad Sal Allaho Alaeyhi Wa Sallam never drank alcohol.I believe it because i have read about it much and because He was given the word of God and God certainly won’t reveal his message to someone who’s not of the best character.
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Well let’s agree to disagree. Can’t say that the sources here are incorrect.
Cheers,
Micky
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No i am not comparing the death toll right now because more Muslims are slaughtered till date even if one goes there!
But you cannot make an inappropriate comment regarding them.Why Muslims then?And just by the way the dignity of beloved Mohammad Sal Allaho Aleyhi Wa Sallam is more beloved to Muslims than their lives.
This is misleading and wrong and a sham.You should remove this.If you would express your thoughts on Muslims that’s alright but do not try to change what Islam teaches.
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I will remove nothing sir. This is how I interpretate the rules on alcohol in your religion. And of many Muslims too I might add.
Fact is that Muslims in Saudi Arabia have very different rules than for example Morocco or Bosnia.
So how can you pretend like there is one right way to practice your faith?
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Okay you can disagree in your mind then.But remove this crap from here.This disgusts me.
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Sorry to hhear that. Maybe you should turn to other websites than. I’m not forcing you to look at it.
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Look i have been telling you that the prime source of authority in our religion is Qur’an and as for hadith that’s very important too but since they were compiled after Mohammad Sal Allaho Alaeyhi Wa Sallam departed from this world so some people misreported or so.But for Qur’an nothing has been changed ever since it was revealed.Please I request you the title is very offending the extract is too and it conveys the wrong message only.
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Well the Hadith is all about the life of Muhammad. If you are questioning it than what do we really know about him, really?
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People will get the wrong message.PLEASE!
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Hadith is valid until it contradicts with teachings of Al-Qur’an,like in this case.
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So the hadith is valid until it contadicts itself? That Gold!
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Now remove this.
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Hahaha yes sire… What else do you demand of me? Shall I cut off an arm or a leg while I’m at it?! 😛
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Micky I commend you for your impeccable manner you are handling the comments of ‘Muslim’ and in contrary to him I greatly respect effort the research you have done. I am not an expert actually no one should ever claim to be one.
Mr ‘Muslim’ all the energy you are spending bullying a single person displays complete immaturity . Give you the advise that should be given to any bully vent your insecurities in something more purposeful create a miserable blog or read the Quran and see that the real essence of Islamic teaching is peace , fairness and being an overall good humanbeing . Your ranting and capitalising (shouting) of letters in your comments are a far cry from Islamic teachings and manners.
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Thank you very much my friend. It’s good to get some support once in a while.
All the best,
Micky
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It’s not a joke.
I think it does not matter to you that your blog may mislead some people.
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Dude, have you ever thought that you may be the one who has been mislead? Just grab a beer and chill out mate.
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I am not wrong on this it’s prohibited in the Qur’an so it is not allowed undoubtedly.
You promote alcoholic drinks however you like not my concern but you cannot use Islam to promote this.
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I believe we are running in circles mate. I’m getting bored. Besides that it’s time for my dinner now. So have a great day.
Cheers,
Micky
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Just remove this and i will leave also.
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Oh you can stay, it’s fine. I’m just not sure if I’ll be answering a lot this evening since I am meeting some friends for fermented grape juice. Still knock yourself out with comments. I might see them tomorrow.
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I do not want to stay at a place where inappropriate words for beloved Prophet Mohammad Sal Allaho Alaeyhi Wa Sallam are used.It was only because i wanted this to be removed but you are being ignorant like the people who always think they are right and never for a moment consider where they maybe heading to.
ISLAM DOES NOT PERMIT ANYTHING THAT IS INJURIOUS TO HEALTH AND Prophet Mohammad Sal Allaho Alaeyhi Wa Sallam is most honourable of people who existed ever.DO NOT USE SUCH DEROGATORY REMARKS FOR HIM.HAVE SOME RESPECT.EVEN MANY NON-MUSLIMS RESPECT HIM ONCE THEY STUDY ABOUT HIS LIFE.
You have the choice to destroy your life by keep drinking alcohol but at least do not try to indulge other people in by giving misinformation.Alcohol has far more disadvantages as compared to the advantages.One of the logical reasons why Islam has prohibited some things is that it my religion closest to nature that if a thing has more disadvantages it’s not allowed for Muslims to use,that too for our betterment.
And yes if you have any sense of propriety left do remove that blasphemous comment of that person”J” and consider removing your own blog as well.
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By the logic that anything that hurts your health is forbidden in Islam Muhammad must have been a smart guy for drinking wine. It is (in moderation, I’ll admit) healthy in many ways.
It prevents depressions: http://lordsofthedrinks.com/2013/09/13/feeling-depressed-have-some-red-wine/
Saves you from cardio problems, prevents obesitas: http://lordsofthedrinks.com/2013/10/13/red-wine-the-best-diet-to-a-superslim-figure/
It can help slow down some forms of MS disease (http://lordsofthedrinks.com/2014/01/08/alcohol-possibly-slows-down-muscle-disease-ms/)
And believe it or not. Even heavy drinkers in general outlive the teetotalers: http://lordsofthedrinks.com/2013/12/11/abstinent-people-more-likely-to-die-young-than-heavy-drinkers/
All of this is proven by modern science. But of course our ancestors, like Muhammad, already knew this.
So cheers buddy!
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Yes, in the time of Muhammad (saw), then it was allowed in a short period.
But Muhammad (saw) noticed, that they weren’t able for them to pray, because most of them were drunk. So he made it prohibited
“They ask you (O Muhammad) concerning alcoholic drink and gambling. Say: In them is a great sin, and (some) benefits for men, but the sin of them is greater than their benefit”
[al-Baqarah 2:219]
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Exactly… It’s disencouraged. Not forbidden. There’s a difference. It’s in the text mate.
Cheers,
Micky
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And by the way,
“Quran 2:219 “They ask you concerning alcoholic drinks and games of chance. Say: in them are harm and goods for men, but their harms exeeds their good effects.””
where did you get this verse from ?:P
.. it is not credible
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Where I got it from? The source is right there. Quran of course.
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Kaan the ayah says no where that what you shared.
They ask you about wine and gambling. Say, “In them is great sin and [yet, some] benefit for people. But their sin is greater than their benefit.”-2:219
The people who do not know about Islam,they should stop posting things regarding it.It’s simply absurd.
lordsofthedrinks no it’s disadvantages exceed it’s advantages.You might not realise it right now though you will one day.
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Aaaaah MUSLIM…. My name is not lordsofthedrinks. Especially not with a small letter and without spaces. My name is Micky. Wouldn’tit be time to get to know eachother better after our long chat? What’s your name mate? Also we are collecting typical hangover food from around the world. You got a good recipe from Pakistan?
Cheers,
Micky
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My beloved Mohammad Sal Allaho Alayehi Wa Sallam NEVER DRANK WINE HE’S THE MESSENGER OF GOD,SO HOW COULD HE TOUCH SOMETHING AS UNCLEAN AS THAT,SO SHUT UP.DO NOT MENTION HIM IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HIM.
But yes what’s the use all you have to do is to CONVINCE people to drink beer which will most likely lead you nowhere.
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Ahhhhh my sensitive friend. I am so sorry I don’t know Muhammad personal. This may be since we have a few centuries age difference. So where did you last met him? Honestly I don’t give a shit if you start drinking or not. You probably wouldn’t be a fun drinker anyway. But I do enjoy our conversations, so keep it coming mate.
Cheers,
Micky
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Are you researching on us or what?If you are not then why the hell are you writing about us?I don’t care do whatever you want to but the minute you spread nonsense or misinformation about Islam i won’t tolerate.And yes you don’t know my beloved Mohammad Sal Allaho Alaeyhi Wa sallam that’s why you are sharing such things that have no truth in them.
I HAVE NO NEED TO CHAT WITH SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT CONSIDER WHAT HE’S WRITING AND SHARING.IDIOT.ACTUALLY IT DOES NOT MATTER TO YOU BECAUSE YOU WANT PEOPLE TO GET THE WRONG IMAGE OF ISLAM AND MY Prophet Mohammad Sal Allaho Alaeyhi Wa Sallam but YOU WON’T SUCCEED In shaa Allah.
TO HELL WITH YOU AND YOUR NAME YOU JUST DON’T WANT TO SEE THE TRUTH.
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Ahaaaaaa….. Calling me an idiot but demand respect on the other side. How about you find yourself a hobby? Maybe collecting stamps or flying kites or something would be better for you. You suck at communicating mate.
So I’m gonna have a beer now. Maybe you should do the same. Ciao!
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You felt bad?You also feel bad?And no i don’t demand respect from you.The person who cannot respect my Prophet Mohammad Sal Allaho Alaeyhi Wa Sallam cannot respect me,or in other words has already disrespected me
Muslims also feel bad when people like you with no knowledge of Islam come and start writing about it and Noble Prophet Mohammad Sal Allaho Alaeyhi Wa Sallam.You have absolutely no right and no need to do so.But as i have seen from my experience with you that you are just turning a deaf ear to the truth and that is Muslims are NOT ALLOWED TO DRINK ALCOHOL and you are telling lies.
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Ahhhh this is boring. Let’s talk some other stuff. What’s going on in your life mate? Do you work or study? Married, children?
Cheers,
Micky
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If you are acting like an IDIOT what else am i supposed to call you?I am telling you this is wrong but you are just making excuses to not remove this.
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Hahahaha why am I an idiot? Because I don’t follow your orders oh great commander? You have some serious issues mate. If you keep ignoring my advice to grab a beer and chill out, maybe you should find professional help. Hope you’ll feel better and less stressed soon.
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You are removing this or not?
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What do you think?
a) yes
b) no
c) when hell freezes over
d) if you pay me 1 million euro in cash
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You are an idiot because you don’t know a religion and you have wrote an article about that.Does that make sense?Do you have any right to do so?You don’t.I only said you to remove this you have a lot of stuff that promotes the beer drinking.You don’t have to involve Islam in it.And the kind of language you’ve used about Mohammad Sal Allaho Alaeyhi Wa Sallam it’s infuriating.
You won’t get anything by doing so.Delete it.Please.
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Ahhhh he is saying please after calling me an idiot. Do you have multiple personalities or just the syndrom of Gilles de la Tourette?
Listen up you nagging retard. I will never ever ever delete this post. Not for you, not for the authorities, not for God himself.
So why don’t you take your pathetic ass somewhere else? You big nothing!
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I called you an idiot because you are.I said you please my bad.I should not have.
I think you must have the multiple personalities syndrome since you are a drinker and it will suit you the most and not to forget people who drink alcohol usually act like retards.GO TO HELL LIAR.
I should have understood in the very beginning that your motive is to misguide Muslims why will you delete this post but you will not succeed neither will the likes of you.In shaa Allah.
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Salaam Alaykum! I was just cruising by here looking for the latest news as I often do. While on my way to Alcohol and Science, I decided to take a look at this place to see what’s been going on. Needless to say, the comment section of this post never fails to disappoint.
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It’s not a very happy moment for me too when i use harsh language with someone.But if someone spread lies about your religion and are absolutely acting ignorant to this fact and use derogatory remarks about a revered personality what else you expect other people to do?
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I expect them to vork vork vork drink fight…. Eastern Europe style! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY1MVQeeStY
Sorry if this makes nosense to you but I have been living today. Good food, good women, good drinks, good day!
Cheers mate,
Micky
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Nu, Mickey, have any advice? I’m flying for home in 6 days’ time but I just got a half liter of 40% ABV samogon and a half liter of 55% ABV chacha and I have exams and papers this week with all my grades for the semester riding on them. How do I get through a solid liter of high proof hooch in less than a week with a busy schedule without crashing and burning (and spilling all the booze)? Thanks!
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Haha well now… Why don’t you study during the day and have yourself a few well deserved glasses in the evening? Either that or have yourself a real drinking session on day 1, get it all out of your system and spend the other days studying.
Cheers,
Micky
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Micky, I got through all the booze on time, and I managed to be primed for study, too. I wrote one of the best essays in my life while powered by booze late at night. And I also did well on my exams and projects! I just took small drinks throughout the day and occasionally larger ones when I needed to get calmed down and in the zone to get cracking on the hard things. Mission accomplished with thanks to your advice, my friend! 🙂
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Great job buddy! Congrats!
Cheers,
Micky
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You bore me… I think I’m gonna grab me a beer. Maybe then you get interesting.
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Firstly,I did not address you there.Secondly,these things give enjoyment for a little period and then are followed with long periods of depression.People who live life like that get more depressed than anyone else.
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Ahhhh…. A swing and a miss. Science proves you wrong mate: http://lordsofthedrinks.com/2013/09/13/feeling-depressed-have-some-red-wine/
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Thanks, Micky! Study hard and enjoy the bottle in between sessions. My first exam is in 9 hours, so I’m going to run through the material again before I call it a day, pour out three drinks’ worth into a flask, and conk out to the Dark Souls OST. I’ve got more on hand for afterwards, however it turns out.
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Unfortunately reaching for a drink won’t always have the effect you’re after.
While a glass of wine after a hard day might help you relax, in the long run it can contribute to feelings of depression and anxiety and make stress harder to deal with. This is because regular, heavy drinking interferes with neurotransmitters in our brains that are needed for good mental health.
Read more on: http://www.drinkaware.co.uk/check-the-facts/health-effects-of-alcohol/mental-health/alcohol-and-mental-health
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A glass of wine a day isn’t heavy drinking. It’s moderate drinking and it’s extremely healthy.
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You are propagating a wrong thing.Which religion do you follow?I am sure no religion directs people to misguide others.
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I am Christian myself but I don’t blindly follow the Pope. He can scream all he wants about condoms being illegal, I will still use them. I like to think for myself instead of blind following.
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Yeah.You mean slow poisoning?
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True one should never blindly follow anything in life.They must do their own study and then decide for themselves and not be a media toy or anyone else’s.
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Once you set aside the harsh feelings and free your mind of bias please study in detail about what you wrote.Like you said you don’t follow the Pope blindly you should also not follow other people blindly.Here’s a link maybe it will be helpful with regards to what you wrote http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/2229/
Even though you did not directly say anything regarding my beloved Mohammad Sal Allaho Alaeyhi Wa Sallam what you shared was enough of an insult to infuriate me and other Muslims.Of course I cannot force you but being a human being I suggest you to respect other people’s believes.A thing which is offending to you won’t be to me maybe but i would try not to mention that in your presence and of course that is the moral ethics.
Media has very well inculcated the right to freedom of speech in people’s mind and forgot to speak about tort that is to trespass someone else’s territory.If you have nothing to do with Islam you should have not bothered to write about it.
There maybe some Muslims who now think it’s not forbidden as predicted by Mohammad Sal Allaho Alaeyhi Wa Sallam but if you open Islamic history you will find that it’s not only discouraged but forbidden.After all Islam is perfect Muslims are not.Muslims may think that or this but the final word is of Allah(God).
With this i think i have tried my best i was harsh because you are trespassing my territory and yes media won’t criticize you for that.
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One must admire your perseverance. But let’s talk something else than religion now. Any cool plans for the weekend mate?
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Wine i drink wine im not drunk. CISCO WILD IRISH ROSE IM VERY DRUNK AND INDANGER MMY MIND AND BODY. BLUSH1gallon alone AND SWEET RED WINE AND WHITE ZINFANDEL NEVER GET DRUNK. ENJOY WINE ALOT MORE THAN BEER. 80 OZ OF MICKEYS BEER I CAN DRINK AND WONT BE DRUNK FROM NOW ON I WILL ONLY DRINK BLUSH AND SWEET RED WINE I HOPE. ALSO IM AMERICAN AND BELIVE ALL MY WAYS ARE FORIGEN.PRAY AT YOUR STRONGEST EMOTIONS AND MIND DRUNK OR SOBER SO GID CAN JUDGE YOU THE FALLEN ANGEL THE DEVIL IS HER TO TEST YOU THE FALLEN ANGEL MICHAEL IS HERE TO GUIDE KNOWING HE CAME DOWN BY COMMAND AND CHOICE. COME AS YOU ARE. UNTILL YOU HAVE A TESTIMONY
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Mickey, thx forthe insightful article…comment section indeed was most entertaining and I admire your grace in handling the questions. Being a Muslim myself, I am rather embarrassed by the exchange that has taken place…
Fyi: I very much enjoy my ‘moderate’ intake of alcohol and feel that the entire Muslim world would benefit from its effects….I too think that alcohol is discouraged but not forbidden in Islam.
I want to add that there are numerous examples throughout his life, when Prophet Mohamed responded to people who were really bad to him, by kindness and forgiveness. That’s the example we have…thr spirit of Islam that all of us should aspire to….rather than be quick to attack any perceived slight on him. To me, this article is far from an attempt af defaming him or the religion. It’s simply an opinion and the writer has done appropriate background research.
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Hi Hina,
Thank you very much foryour kind words. You absolutely caught the intention of this article. I really didn’t want to offend anyone, but as it turns out some people are just very easily offended.
Wish you all the best.
Cheers,
Micky
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You are my sister in faith may Allah Tala guide you.Ameen.
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Hello, I was researching this topic and came across your article. It honestly made me think because you’re sources are from the Quran and I get what you are saying but I do feel like that there is a misconception here. I think this video explains these specific verses on alcohol quite nicely if anyone is wondering. https://youtu.be/IYnjlW5Fom0
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Thanks a lot for your visit and the video.
Cheers,
Micky
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Hi Micky,
Thanks a lot for your insightful article. It was very interesting to read and I appreciate the effort you made.
I’m disgusted by the way “Muslim” reacts and I certainly hope everyone here knows that not all Muslims are that narrow minded, some just ruin it for all the others. Whether you agree with the article or not, there’s no need for such language and it’s insane to ask Micky to take it down. I agree that one should respect others religions and not unnecessarily offend them with cartoons or so. Micky here didn’t offend anyone, and even if he did an adult discussion is the only way.
Think outside of the box, “Muslim”. And please do us all a favour and stop using that name, you don’t represent us.
Keep up the good work, Micky!
Ahmed
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Thanks a lot for your nice words and support Ahmed. And don’t worry, the guy who called himself Muslim didn’t change a thing. We have narrow minded people in every country and culture, you shouldn’t worry about them.
Thanks again for your visit and kind words. All the best,
Micky
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He did not offend anyone by writing that Prophet Mohammad Sal Allaho Alayhi Wa Sallam used to drink (Nauzobillah),but you feel disgusted by the way i reacted?It’s really startling if you are a Muslim.You know alcohol is just a filthy drink and no one,NO ONE has any right to associate something unclean with my Prophet Mohammad Sal Allaho Alayhi Wa Salam.
I certainly did not do anything wrong by demanding to take this article down he is no scholar to discuss on this issue,as a matter of fact he’s not even a Muslim.
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So what? You are not a fish but you are free to talk about water! According to you only an elite group has the right to interpretate these books and they should the rest how to live. That is quite ignorant mate!
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yes they can drink non alcoholic drink, wine ( khamer) or other alcohol is not allowed and no profit of god did drink it after moses. muslim do not drink alcohol but they can have non alcoholic grape drink etc.. and in heaven there are no alcohol as it is not need it , there is non alcoholic wine9 khamer) and thats well described in quran. so what is this nonsense here.!!!!!
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Well…. Look upthe formentioned sources I would say.
Cheers,
Micky
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Firstly,Islam is open to everyone and everyone can study about it but it does not make sense if you come and start writing about something about which your information does not suffice specially after i shared some references which proves that this is absolutely forbidden!
About the interpretation part well if someone knows you or is close to you do you think they can consider you situations or feelings the same way as you can?They need to walk in your shoes to know that.Same thing is with Islam you can’t comment regarding these things specially when you have no knowledge about so many rulings about this area.
Do not try to misguide people.You can be wrong and there’s no shame to set aright something which you did and that was wrong,rather it reflects audacity of a person.
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Have you ever had your IQ tested? I’m quite curious what it was. Since we are running in circles I will keep it short.
A) I can write whatever I like. It’s called freedom of speech.
B) I don’t try to misguide anyone or push anyone to drinking (although it would be nice if some people loosened up a bit) but I am simply telling my conclusions after studying this religion.
That’s all folks!
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Don’t believe in what this guy says. It is haram (forbidden) to drink alcohol in Islam. In Islam we are told to not commit zina, and avoid anything related to zina, just stay away from zina. Alcohol causes zina as it causes unconsciousness. I’m pretty sure you’re not a Muslim, you’re just a kafir that is trying to put Muslims off track with Islam.
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Show me the passage where it is literally said that alcohol is haram and I believe you. Oops, what’s that? This passage doesn’t exist? Guess I stick with the story then!
Cheers,
Micky
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★Imaam Ahmad recorded that Abu Maysarah said that `Umar R.A once said, “O Allaah! Give us a clear ruling regarding Al-Khamr!” Allaah sent down the Ayaah of Soorat al-Baqarah:
(They ask you (O Muhammad Sal Allaho Alayhi Wa Salam) concerning alcoholic drink and gambling. Say: “In them is a great sin…)
[ al-Baqara 02 :219 – Interpretation of the meaning]
★`Umar was then summoned and the Ayaah was recited to him. Yet, he still said, “O Allaah! Give us a clear ruling regarding Al-Khamr.” Then, this Ayaah that is in Soorat An-Nisaa’ was revealed:
(O you who believe! Approach not As-Salah (the prayer) when you are in a drunken state.)
[ an-Nisaa’ 4:43 – Interpretation of the meaning]
★Then, when the prayer was called for, a person used to herald on behalf of Allaah’s Messenger , “No drunk person should attend the prayer.”
★`Umar was summoned again and the Ayaah was recited to him. Yet, he still said, “O Allaah! Give us a clear ruling regarding Al-Khamr.”
Then, the Ayaah that is in Soorat Al-Maa’idah was revealed, `Umar was again summoned and the Ayaah was recited to him. When he reached:
(So, will you not then abstain)
[ al-Maa’idah 5:91 – Interpretation of the meaning]
he said, “We did abstain, we did abstain.”
★This is also the narration that Abu Dawud, At-Tirmidhi and An-Nasai collected in their books. `Ali bin Al-Madini and At-Tirmidhi said that the chain of narrators for this Hadeeth is sound and authentic.
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The Messenger of Allaah Sal Allaho Alayhi Wa Salam) said:
“Among my ummah there will certainly be people who permit Zinaa, silk, alcohol and musical instruments…”
[Narrated by al-Bukhaaree ta’leeqan, no. 5590; narrated as mawsool by al-Tabaraani and al-Bayhaqi. See al-Silsilah al-Saheehah by al-Albaani, 91].
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And this:
http://www.islamlaws.com/why-alcohol-is-prohibitedharam-in-islam-dangerous-and-harmful-effects-of-alcoholwhy-alcohol-is-prohibitedharam-in-islam-dangerous-and-harmful-effects-of-alcohol/
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You made the point very well.Thumbs up.
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Then you should study both sides of the arguments if you really want to write about a religion specifically a Prophet.
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Dude, find a hobby. Buy a skateboard or a bike or something.
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People don’t understand if God has forbidden a thing that must be bad for mankind because He is the All-Knowing and He has created us,designed us proportioned us.Who would know better than Him what’s best for us?Even Bible prohibits drinking alcohol.
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Trust me I do not wish to talk to you.
But you are trying to misguide people.You can run a blog and promote as much alcohol as you want i have no issue.But if you want to write about a religion you need to get your facts straight.
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The Bible? You mean the profession of Isa as you call it? The same who said that people should share wine as if it was his blood? Who is misinformed now???
I wonder if you are a comedian in Pakistan or just the village idiot hahaha
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You wrote to @Muhammed ince that you will believe that it’s haram if it’s stated in some passage in some passage.I shared it now.Are you planning to go back on your words?
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Nah…. When is the word haram ever used for alcohol? It never is!
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This.
“Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging; and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.” [Proverbs 20:1]
b. “And be not drunk with wine.” [Ephesians 5:18]
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So that’s about drunkeness genius… They preach moderation, not abstinence. So basically the same goes for Muslims.
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Okay I don’t know about your religion as much as you do.But same goes for you,you do not know about Islam as much as Muslims do.
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It’s not rocket science really. If you just read the texts and draw the riight conclusions. But you read what you want to read.
Anyway, have a good day. I ‘m bored of this conversation again and again and again.
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The Messenger of Allaah Sal Allaho Alayhi Wa Salam) said:
“Among my ummah there will certainly be people who permit Zinaa, silk, alcohol and musical instruments…”
[Narrated by al-Bukhaaree ta’leeqan, no. 5590; narrated as mawsool by al-Tabaraani and al-Bayhaqi. See al-Silsilah al-Saheehah by al-Albaani, 91].
Zina,musical instruments these are prohibited and if alcohol is written in this area,it conveys the message very well that it’s also prohibited and if he (Sal Allaho Alayhi Wa Salam )signified that people will”PERMIT” it then what else does it mean Mr?
Why do i have to break it down for you.It’s so clear until you do not want to accept it.
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I have seen no haram, sorry.
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When Allah revealed this verse that “will you then not abstain” what else is it telling you?Of course to stop.It’s not only discouraging Muslims but also making it forbidden for them once Allah says them to stop from something that means to not use it,to stay away from it.Allah says in one place to take whatever Mohammad Sal Allaho Aalyhi Wa Salam gives and stop from whatever he does not permit.And in the above hadith he did tell us these things are not permitted.
Additionally,for the acts Islam discourages one of them is,praying in the path of people who are passing in front of one.But if a thing is stated as not permitted and that too explicitly then it automatically means it’s not only discouraged but also forbidden.
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Mate, you bore me. I think I’m going for a beer. Take care!
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Here is the word “FORBIDDEN”
Abu Sa’eed Al-Khudri R.A reported: I heard the Messenger of Allah Sal Allaho Alayhi Wa Salam, addressing the people in Medina, saying, “O people, Allah is alluding to a command for wine. Perhaps Allah will soon reveal an order regarding it. So whoever has some of it should sell it and benefit from it.” We waited for some time until the Prophet Sal Allaho Alayhi Wa Salam said, “Verily, Allah the Exalted has forbidden wine. Whoever knows this verse and has some of it should neither drink it nor sell it.” The people then brought whatever they had with them into the streets of Medina and poured it out.
Source: Sahih Muslim 1578
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I hope you got your misconception clear now please correct this mistake.
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You don’t come across as a very happy fellow. I on the other hand am drinking my 2nd beer of the day and I am in quite a joyful mood. Not because of the alcohol of course, cause I need quite a lot more to get tipsy but it seems like a crime to forbid this drink.
Cheers,
Micky
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It’s your life do whatever you wish.But are you trying to go back on your words?I proved it’s forbidden now fulfill what you said.
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The only thing you have proven is a lack of intelligence, good manners and ability to think outside your narrow little world. But it’s okay, you are not less of a human being because of this.
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Okay I got that you are not a man of your words.I gave you the reference yet you are being obstinate for no apparent reason.
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I never knew stupidity like this was possible… Find me the word haram in relation to alcohol in the Quran was the task. You can’t, nobody can’t, simply cause it’s not there.
Now maybe you can go somewhere else. As you have seen you are even ignoring many other Muslims with your ignorance. You made your point, we agreed it was stupid. Now go annoy someone else.
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Forbidden means haram what else it means MR?
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Qur’an?You said a passage,you never specified any source.The second authority after Qur’an is Hadith.It seems like you just do not want to accept the truth.
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I accept the truth that this beer tastes very good. Cheers mate!
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This title and the words you shared are very offending.You get offended if i call you idiot or that you are not a man who keeps his words(at least that’s what you did here)but you expect me to be indifferent when you write about Islam that too based on your erroneous assumptions?As i said Mohammad Sal Allaho Alayhi Wa Salam never ever touched anything like this,he’s a messenger of God and he’s only inclined to please His God and help His creation.
You can think whatever you want to because it’s ostensible now that you just do not want to admit that Alcohol is forbidden in Islam.But after receiving majority of responses by which it’s clear that Islam has forbidden alcohol it’s your duty to not misguide people.
Your religion certainly does not teach you to misguide others.Also this is unethical.And yes again i will repeat this is very very very offending you can call me whatever you want, i won’t say you anything but do not write such things about Islam,about my Prophet Mohammad Sal Allaho Alayhi Wa Salam.
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Hey Mickey! Hows it going? Your article (as well as the comments section) successfully managed to capture my interest. I understand that you have the right to freedom of speech, opinion, interpretation, etc., and I can respect that. Who am I to tell you what you should say and do? I’m not here to cause any problems, I am but a bystander. That being said, as a muslim I feel morally obligated to propose my own perspective on the matter. From what I understand, ‘MUSLIM’ seems agitated because the significance of the Quran lies in the fact that it has been unchanged for 1400 years, and he feels as if you are trying to negate that (which i am sure you are not). Likewise, the assumption is made that your viewpoint equates to that of an insult to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Not to mention that alcohol being haram is common knowledge, at least in my region, and based on the context I have come to the conclusion that this also must also be the case with my muslim brother up top. And as for my take on misguidance, if that is your goal, may I cordially ask you to stop? If i have offended anyone, i apologize in advance. Thank you.
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I think you summarized it quite nicely. Thanks for stopping by mate.
Cheers,
Micky
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Enjoyed reading your post, (some people are just so sensitive)
Need to take a chill pill, or a beer 🙂
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Haha thanks Sony. No pills for me, I like old school meds (http://lordsofthedrinks.com/2014/03/18/10-alcoholic-drinks-to-replace-the-pills-in-your-medicine-cabinet/)!
Cheers,
Micky
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I am muslim and I believe whatever I feel and interpretate from the Quran. I studied it and did research. memorized it aswell. everyone has there different views of the holy Quran as well as different churches has views on the Bible. celebrate different things in every city the way they were taught. This article really helped me alot as it was summerized and I believe a drink now and then is not bad. Woman in Hijab just like me I have seen in a pub enjoying a glass and thats just what they believe. too many ppl are criticized for believing what they believe. 2 Catholic churches in my area are at war over drinking alcohol and eating pork. both have different beliefs. aswel as the mosques in my area. one thing I have never ever seen is intoxication in the mosque. smoking is hazardous aswell to the health aswell as hooka and any form of substance destroying our health but red wine is scientificly proven to be healthy to our hearts. I learnt all I have from my granparents and my grand dad was a respected imam in my area as well and he told me “do whatever u believe is right, do not let anyone influence ur decisions” so thank you for posting this article. I really appreciate it. 🙂 couldn’t have said it any better.
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Thank you very much Fatima. You sound like a well educated person. Keep living your life the way you think it’s best and don’t let ignorant people tell you otherwise.
All the best,
Micky
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hi. I enjoyed ur post. was very interesting to read. being a muslim myself I have learnt that there are many different imams with many different opinions and insights on the message of the Quran. Christians believe many different things aswell as muslims. in my area we have a few mosques that welcome gay muslims and does not judge them. other mosques believe alcohol is not haraam and others do. same with churches. esp the confusion in Catholic churches here. some believe in drinking wine and eating pork. other dont. some churches believe in xmas other dont. some mosques believes in following meccas eid-ul-fitr and eid-ul-adagar others believe in the moon. and have seen many religion all over the world and stidying the differences on them all “Muslim” needs to explore more and see others interpretate the Quran differently in different countries/cities/regions. One interpretation is not the ultimate interpretation. the ultimate we will only know once we die. yes there was prophets but over the years its a broken telephone that divided muslims and christians into different mosques and churches. who is right and who is wrong? who is the one in this age and time with the ultimate answer?is the Bible and the Quran a guideline for living or a dictation of how to live? do we have an exact map of how our life should be? is the stuff thats being taught even taught in the correct way? there are so many questions that only can be answered once we die. so in the mean while. live how u feel u should live. believe what u feel is correct. opinions are only opinions. I feel the article was interesting and very insightful. being a imams grandaughter I know alot about islam. ive memorized the book and interpretated things my own way of what I believe because in the end… we are humans not knowing the actual truth of what is really out there. so thank you for ur article. was once again a interesting read 🙂
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Thanks again for the great comments Fatima. May I ask which region in this world you are from? It sounds like a pretty mixed area when it comes to religion.
Greetings,
Micky
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Im fromoSouth Africa, Cape Town. We have many religions here. Muslims with mosques in every area .Christians with churches in those same areas. Indian Temples .Buddist Temples. The colour festival was celebrated recently here aswell. Chinese new year and chinese celebrations aswell. lol here are much more. just named a few. Just from living here alone I have learnt and experienced many cultures and religions.
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Very nice. I am from Holland myself and it’s pretty much the same. Through the years we have taken up so many people from other cultures it sometimes feels like a UN meeting haha
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The same here lol its a very interesting thing to experience all these cultures and religions so close to home. Makes life more fun that way :).
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Absolutely… Not to mention all the great food that’s available because of the diversity! 😉
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lords of drink and MUSLIM i want to inform you the message of muhammad(peace be upon him) that he said that don’t take any message in consideration or don’t believe any message from any nonmuslim or liar or kafir whether it is true. as lordsofthedrinks is not muslim, whatever he says doesn’t matter to nuslims. it will not be any harm for others as a mislead cause micky is not a muslim. and muslim don’t believe in nonmuslim.
And MUSLIM, when you talk to any nonmuslim care to give all proof from quran and hadis, just don’t shout or give any reasons. otherwise you will destroy the power of islam. of course there are so many verses in quran which directly haram alchohol. micky said of quran, surah 2(baqarah), he said one ayath(sentence) numbered more than 200, but there’s an ayath in the same surah (no 2) around 60, where alchohol is haram, but he ignored that…
And most important thing is quran is sent to our prophet neither as a full book together at a time nor with a continuity as in it. It came as required as need of situation and scatteredly in 23 years. so before researching it you must know what came first and what came later. As in begining muslim could drink alcohol, then little strick rule came – you can not drink while prayer, then more strick- all alcohol drinking haram.,, About nabeed there are few more hadith came that shows nabeed is haram when it takes the form of alcohol, but nabeed is not similar as wine. and one should know that alcohol, specially wine is a good rust cleaner.Alcohol from grapes and lemons are used in industry for cleaning purpose. that is the thing allah said in quran a matter of thinking for wise, not fool(they will drink cleaner).
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Thanks a lot for this insightful comment Fuad. I hope MUSLIM can catch some well deserved sleep now after nights of worrying about my post haha…
No, in all seriousness. Thanks for stopping by and sharing your point of view.
Cheers,
Micky
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have you even read the quran or hadiths. its clearly not allows, its forbidden. you shouldnt be giving out wrong information if you dont have the proper facts.
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Haleemah have you read them? Have you read this article? It’s based on those books. You have any arguments at all???
Cheers,
Micky
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