Muslims Can Drink, Just like Muhammad

/ August 6, 2013
It's quite well possible to be a good Muslim and still enjoy a drink once in a while.

It’s quite well possible to be a good Muslim and still enjoy a drink once in a while.

It is a general assumption that Muslims can not drink alcohol. Not that all believers of Islam go through life sober, but still it’s considered a sin to have a beer. Well, we did a lot of research and in this story we will explain to you why this assumption is wrong. Muslims are indeed allowed to drink. Wine is even glorified in their holy book the Quran and the prophet Muhammad himself drank too. We hope that soon everywhere in the Middle East the sounds of glasses bashing into eachother will replace those of gunshots. Here we go…

The first thing we need to do is to establish that drinking alcohol is not prohibited by the Quran as is claimed by many. There are three passages that hint in this direction. However not in a single occasion it is called haraam, or forbidden by God, like pork meat for example. Here are the three passages:
Quran 2:219 “They ask you concerning alcoholic drinks and games of chance. Say: in them are harm and goods for men, but their harms exeeds their good effects.”
Quran 4:43 “Do not approach prayers while you are drunk.”
Quran 5:90 “O you who believe! Intoxications and gambling, (dedication of) stones and (divination by) arrows are an abomination of Satan’s handwork: so avoid it that you may prosper.”

Yes, alcohol is not being encouraged here. Although it is said that there are good sides to it, the emphasis is on the bad effects. Still it seems more like an advice not to drink as long as you don’t do your prayers drunk. We understand that talking to God with a double tongue is probably not the greatest idea, but as long as you keep that in mind there isn’t a good reason to chose for abstinence.

Now that we established that let’s check out another passage from the Quran that speaks of alcohol:
Quran 16.67 “And of the fruits of the date palms and the grapes, you obtain alcoholic drinks and goods. Verily in that is a sign for a people who use their understanding.”
In this verse without a doubt is said that God bestowed grapes and dates upon people, so they can make alcoholic drinks from them. That’s right, wine making is encouraged here.

Since we know for sure now that alcohol was not prohibited, but even encouraged, it’s interesting to see how the prophet Muhammad handled his liquor. There are plenty of examples in the Hadiths (tales about Muhammad’s life that are used to understand the meaning of the Quran) that prove he indeed drank alcohol. Here is the most interesting one:
Muslim 3753 “We were with the prophet of Allah and he was thirsty. And a man said: ‘O prophet of Allah, do you want to drink wine?’ Prophet of Allah said: ‘Yes’. The man went to get the wine. The prophet of Allah said: ‘Make it intoxicated’. And he drank.”
Because the Arabian word that was used ‘nabeed’ can also mean alcohol free wine, the addition by the prophet that is must be intoxicated is a very valuable one. There are plenty more passages where Muhammad is drinking wine, both in the morning and in the evening. In many cases the Islamic opponents of alcohol can hide behind the double meaning of the word ‘nabeed’, but in the last habith the Arabic word ‘khamra’ is used, which means alcohol.

And actually Muhammad wasn’t the only one drinking, so did his companions. Anas Bin Malek serves alcohol in Muslim 23, 4884 and 4886. The Mujahedeen drank it in the Battle of Uhud and the prophet’s uncle Hamza even got drunk. When he did, Hamza got mad and Muhammad was scared. This was probably one of the reasons for him to disencourage people to drink too much. There’s also a tale that angels from Allah get drunk and kill a child. Another indication that bad stuff comes from drinking of course.

Still the conclusion must be that although moderation of alcohol is encouraged in Islam, it is absolutely not prohibited. The Quran states nowhere that it is haraam or sinful. The prophet Muhammad himself that is a role-model for Muslims himself drank wine, just like his companions and Jesus, who in Islam is also considered a prophet. Now that’s one less reason to fight between religions and one more reason to celebrate. Nice to know with the Sugar Feast coming up this week too. So to finish in Arabic: besaha!

Micky Bumbar

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675 thoughts on “Muslims Can Drink, Just like Muhammad”

  1. Muhammad PBH says: “Every flesh that grows from something illegal, then hell is the most priority.” (Narrated by Tirmidhi).

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  2. Nice move pal. Its like cigarrette. Once you addicted then that it. If you want to have liver cirrrhosis, fatty liver disease please be my guest. Dont encourage people who is naturally doesnt drink to drink. Since you have some degree of toxicated mind then I hope that you will recover soon. Reak men drink water, milk, juice or something that can nourish the body, not bring more harm to it. Sorry, for me you are sound not clever enough for me.

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    • Your English sucks dick, just like your “prophet” and backwards-ass religion. Why do most Muslims who mastermind terrorist attacks drink and fuck prostitutes? They young fanatics they send on suicide missions are the ones who are sober. LOL.

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      • J, you need to be prayed for,….1)your arrogance is just shocking , i mean so what if the mans english sucks , maybe it aint his first language, how is he sposd to know the language 2)dont ever speak about Islam like that or anything else for that matter, its just common sense to not be unnecessarily rude like that and 3) you need to go take some kind of history class or something, and tell me who will turn out to be the most scary and worst terrorists to ever walk this earth, was it those few extremists who do things that go against Islam, or is it in fact other people who have nothing to do with the religion, and m not saying christians or jews or hindus are the worst people , m just saying that there are so many evil people in this world and whatever they do does not in any way imply that they are doing it because its what their religious beliefs instructed them to or whatever….lastly….to put it nicely….Go jump off a bridge, will you 🙂 unless of course youve wised up by now, but either way i pray for the betterness of your screwed up mental state. Salam.

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  3. Make it intoxicated means to make it not cause people to get drunk. Alcohol is prohibited from being consumed because it makes people drunk. Beer without alcohol is not haraam because it does not intoxicate. Using alcohol swabs as antiseptic is also allowable. The prophet PBUH was never drunk. The blogger is clearly out of his expertise. Instead of coming into religion, you should just stick with drinking your alcohol. The lack of knowledge is visible. Just taking one verse at a time is a common way to misguide people.

    Al-Quran and Al-Hadith or As-Sunnah cannot be separated. During the ruling of the Prophet Muhammad PBUH, alcohol and anything that makes people drunk are prohibited for consumption and punishments are assigned to those who drink. So it is haraam.

    The tale about angels getting drunk is a false tale. Angels do not even have desires to start.

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    • J, you need to be prayed for,….1)your arrogance is just shocking , i mean so what if the mans english sucks , maybe it aint his first language, how is he sposd to know the language 2)dont ever speak about Islam like that or anything else for that matter, its just common sense to not be unnecesarily rude like that and 3) you need to go take some kind of history class or something, and tell me who will turn out to be the most scary and worst terrorists to ever walk this earth, was it those few extremists who do things that go against islam, or is it in fact other people who have nothing to do with the religion, and m not sayinng christians or jews or hindus are the worst people , m just saying that there are so many evil people in this world and whatever they does not in any way imply that they are doing it because its what their religious belliefs instructed them to or whatevr….lastly….to put it nicely….Go jump off a bridge, will you 🙂 unless of course youve wised up by now, but either way i pray for the betterness of your screwed up mental state. Salam.

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  4. buck up man …I agree …most ppl dnt know the difference between intoxication and drunkenness…thanks for the article…..great work…

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  5. Pleease done spread lies about Islam. I understand that you have done some research about the topic, and therefore, you feel justified in saying that Islam does not forbid drinking alcohol, but there are a lot of faults with this research.

    “O you who believe! Intoxicants (all kinds of alcoholic drinks), gambling, idolatry, and diving arrows are an abomination of Satan’s handiwork. So avoid that so that you may be successful. Shaitân (Satan) wants only to excite enmity and hatred between you with intoxicants (alcoholic drinks) and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allâh and from As-Salât (the prayer). So, will you not then abstain?” [Surah Al-Ma’idah 5:90-91]
    This Ayat clearly prohibits Alcohol, as it hinders people from the remembrance of Allah, which is one of the main beliefs of Islam, the remembrance of Allah, and begging for forgiveness for our sins.
    Also, you quoted Ayat 16.67. You have done some research about Islam, so you should know that all the verses of the Quran were not released at the same time.
    Quran 16.67 “And of the fruits of the date palms and the grapes, you obtain alcoholic drinks and goods. Verily in that is a sign for a people who use their understanding.”
    If you had done a little more research, you would know that this Ayat was revealed before the prohibition of Alcohol.
    I hope I have cleared your misconception

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    • He didn’t understand how to distinguish the verses that came before and after the prohibition. Or maybe he do have the knowledge about it, god knows.

      Regarding on al-Maidah:90[5:90], Allah clearly prohibit alcohol. The reason behind this issue is because of the translation. It may sound weak in english but i you read it in its original language(which you should), it forbid alcohol, clearly.

      In Malaysia where quran is translated in our language ‘Bahasa Melayu’, the word ‘intoxicants’ is written as ‘arak’ in the Malaysian translation which means ‘alcohol’ in english.

      Hope this will give some clarification dear author. Peace

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    • Like many bullshits in Islam drinking is one of them. Muhammad decreed Muslim men can only have four wives but he had 9 as well as slave girls he banged. Hypocrite much? I’m almost certain Muhammad enjoyed getting crunk, this man was all about Islamic conquest towards the latter part of his life promising his foot soldiers would gain sex slaves and war booty for Allah’s pleasure so why would we think he wouldn’t like to drink wine or maybe even a 40 oz. if it had been around back then? This man knew how to get what he wanted out of life, you gotta give him credit for that.

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  7. Blog posts like these are awesome! When they generate as many informative response as this one did I believe it serves as testament to the quality of the post. These are conversations we need to have more often so that we can understand each other better. I would not call your research, as some have, misconstrued or generating lies. It was simply your interpretation of what you have found and it was a refreshing one to be honest. I have never heard or read that the prophet ever drank alcohol and I would have to disagree with your interpretation. Nevertheless, refreshing post, really enjoyed it.

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      • I am a muslim but not very relegious as i dont pray five times a day like i am supposed too. But i do have believes which gives me a motive or purpose and i think its necessary for every individual in this planet to have a purpose. I have never seen Allah but in my thoughts its a power i kneel infront of in my darkest time or complain to and ask for guidance or forgiveness. Getting to the point i am not going tell you anything in terms of religion but i will do ask u this, what if a guy who does not drink due to his believes starts drinking right after he reads your posts and instantly dies from intoxication or an accident caused by the intoxication are you willing to take the blame, will you not consider your post as second degree murder?

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  8. u r giving wrong messages to people regarding islam…islam totally prohibits alcohol..it is considerd a major sin. if one consumes alcohol and dies without repenting he will go to the hell..
    the following hadith is one of many hadiths which refer to prohibition of alcohol but im quoting a single one which is enough to prove dat in islam alcohol is prohobited..

    In Sunan Ibn-I-Majah Volume 3,
    Book of Intoxicants, Chapter 30
    Hadith No. 3392
    “Anything which intoxicates in a
    large quantity, is prohibited even
    in a small quantity.”

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  10. Definitely, people have to read the true meaning of Islam not that of your twisted version. Quran is the one who prohibited drinking. If you can read the context of the ayah referring to wine being handiwork of satan. That was the moment when people heard this ayah they through the very cups and pots containing wine and the streets of City was filled with the wasted stuff. You have to work on historical matters also. Dont be too hasty to reach a cup of wine. Do a better search next time

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  12. u shall never have a good end for disseminating wrong messages of the quran and sunnah to the world. u will soonest see the evil result of ur delibrate acts.

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  13. This is such a disgraceful theory. I had to read as a friend stumbled on this blog. Firstly, you are a catholic. Thats fine but you have NO rights to make whats already wrong as right. And having to read your replies to those that have clearly mentioned and proof that it is a downright sin.. your replies was we muslims are in denial , truth hurts etc etc. Like your theory is powerful enough? Ego much? People who knows better than u justify it but that does not mean they are being defensive or couldnt accept the truth. They are making you understand what you mentioned is simply not right. Or I would say correcting the mis intepretation.They had to stop this misleading theory of yours cuz its mocking Islam and Muhammad . Subtle or not. I see some muslims who agrees with ur article. all I could think of is they want to be sure drinking is not a sin cuz they liked it and this piece of post seemed to answer their questions.Oh thats how satan works. Stick with ur binge drink but act smart cuz ur head is messed up with all the large amt of alcohol intake.

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    • So according to you the only ones who can write about Islam are Muslims? That is pretty weird. Anyway, I respect your interpretation of the rules, this is mine. Guess we have to agree to disagree. Thanks for stopping by and taking the time to answer.
      Cheers,
      Micky

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  14. What a lie, i’m a Muslim and i’m telling you that’s all a lie. WE don’t drink, Muslims are NOT drinking. maybe you did your research on those who consider themselves as Muslims. And where did you get that thing? our prophet was drinking? where’s the evidence?!

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    • Well that’s all in the post. I suggest you read it again if you didn’t get it. Also the fact that you consider yourself a good Muslim and others who do drink not is exactly why we made the post. Don’t look down on others because they choose to practice their religion in a different way than you.
      Cheers,
      Micky

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  15. What a lame post…

    Its like.. I am engineer and doing a brain surgery, I have MRI report in one hand and the knife in other..

    People with much better knowledge had research in this subject.. you better research on equation like this..
    1+1 = ?
    2+2 = ?
    1+? = 5
    I hope you succeed and don’t mess up like this article..

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  16. Relying on translated texts alone, Qur’ānic and ĥadeeth, is not the way to go if one is to use them as a source/reference without double-checking for authenticity for there could be errors in them – like the ones you posted – or using Qur’ānic signs out of context. In order to get the precise meaning, one has to refer back to and grasp the original ARABIC text, word and etymological word.

    (http://worde3yne.wordpress.com/2012/07/07/the-beauty-of-classical-arabic-a-timeless-identity-of-islam-part-one/)

    ‘Nabeedh’ (‘nabeeth’ – نبيذ) does not translate to wine at all in classical Arabic – the Arabic Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) spoke and the language of the Qur’ān.

    ‘Nabeedh’ loosely means ‘juice after soaking’, which comes from the Arabic root word ‘na-ba-dha’ (نبذ) loosely meaning ‘centrifuge’. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) used to enjoy dates/sultanas soaked in water until they softened and flavoured the water, which he drank within a 12-hour period (roughly). If the juice fermented, he would discard it – he NEVER drank it – and then thoroughly washed the “waterskin” to remove any residue of fermentation.

    Alcohol’s prohibited in Islām. Just because some Arabic-speakers/Muslims write about it to justify drinking alcohol, doesn’t mean they have the correct knowledge or fully comprehend Arabic or the religion.

    I just thought you’d like to know (~_^).

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  18. Firstly i would like to introduce that the writer of this website is not from the family of islam may be and he might have a strong temptation of drinking wine and he might have a strong support of it and from which source tells that islam is not against drinking wine .tell me the point /verse that islam do not prohibit drinking wine .their is no such an such stories that u fool is building up u fugitive why are u trying to sham our beautifull religion tell me the islamic book which u are dealing with the drinking of wine.allah has mention in many islamic books that at the day of judement a men will be come out which he spent his life drinking wine hanging wine bottle ,his body will be wet ,unpleasent strong smell cannot walk normally then at that time the whole men on earth would recongnise him as a drunker during his earthly life and their are different from of punishment for this sin some were made to drink fire so and so .if u are in mind of drinking,drink alone do not make such remark this and that and die in hell.

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  20. interesting post, however i’d like to point out
    *O you who have believed, indeed, intoxicants, gambling, [sacrificing on] stone alters [to other than Allah ], and divining arrows are but defilement from the work of Satan, so avoid it that you may be successful.* [5:90]
    success as defined in the Quran is meant the eternal success i.e. the hereafter, He says here in order to be successful one should avoid it, which leads me to think if we indulge in it we won’t be successful in the hereafter….maybe indulging means to be a retarded drunkard which means mild drinking might be permissible.
    on the contrary, Umer (may ALLAH be pleased with him) used to own a wine business, he gave it up when the order to avoid it was revealed.
    again, Umer was one very devout figure who would practice each and every law to the fullest, maybe its haraam or maybe it was just because he would not even touch it because ALLAH considered avoiding wine, he would be an extremist here but NOT wrong.
    until now my reply is both in favor and against alcohol, im not making a judgement, just thinking freely.
    and despite what others say, i appreciate your efforts that you took time researching (however handicapped or complete might that be) on the topic and sharing your result.

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  21. Question: Can someone tell the full context of “intoxication” according to Islam. How about if you drink a little but you are not drunk or intoxicated. Intoxication is not only applicable to beverages… how about in the hospital or medical aspect. Some medicines has alcohol content, some pain reliever have intoxicating effect thats why it alleviates pain, or the anesthesia perhaps… does this mean all this medical practices are HARAM if Islam is talking about all things with “Intoxication”.

    I’m a new convert and a medical practitioner….this just confuses me. Help!

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    • Well Hamdan, nice question…using painkillers or medicines, anesthesia etc are allowed because it’s ‘needed’. ALLAH is most forgiving when it comes to needs, suppose you’re dying of hunger you’re allowed to eat anything even pork.
      So as far as the field of medicine is concerned it is allowed, just not to be used at home for intoxicating/getting high purposes :p
      hope that clarifies your query although I am not an expert.

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  22. This guy is not understanding what he’s saying.most of what he refers to is pre islam.I don’t know weather he’s deliberately trying to incite reaction or he’s just ignorant.

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  23. Note; the Qur’an is not like a dictionary or a tale, it is the word of God. You cant just go and pick words without knowing there backgrounds. Those verses you quoted came in bits and at different times, you need to learn bro. May Allah Forgive you this sin you have committed

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  24. u r trying to misguide Muslims really alcohol is ha ram in islam because Allah s.w.t says its harmful effects r more than good effects. Yes of course Muhammad s.a.w loved vinegar

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  25. I am from muslim community. Muslims are brainwashed since childhood. They will never question the Quran or whatever their religious leaders said. We just close our eyes to the wrongs and fallacies and concentrate on what seemed right.
    It was a clear fact Muhammad drank alcohol and enjoyed it. Even in Paradise, alcohol is to be enjoyed abundantly. All the truth, historical truth and facts are out there. Only very few muslims dares to look beyond the quran.

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    • Very nice to hear something like this from a Muslim (or ex-Muslim, I’m not sure by your comment). Because the main thing people have against this story is that the writer isn’t Muslim himself. Like you have to be a fish to write about the ocean right? Thanks a lot for stopping by.
      Cheers,
      Micky

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      • I am a muslim no more. I don’t drink and neither do I encourage drinking. But I love truth. You will never understand or feel the sufferings, torments and losses I had to go through for exiting islam. There is a heavy price for my head. But I can only say I am so so very glad I found the truth. Truth is worth all the life (and death).

        Muslims are trapped within islam with no way out, so most of us just refuse to hear anything against islam whether true or not. The truth is all there including historical records, the original scriptures and documentations of Allah and all the prophets (before Muhammad changed and rewrite them), but sadly, muslims are just barred from truth. So you can expect what reaction you will get from your article.

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      • Well I’m glad my parents or the people who surrounded me never pushed me in any direction. Therefor it’s hard to imagine how you must have felt. I just hope you are happy now and thanks for sharing.
        All the best!
        Micky

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    • I also from muslim community. It’s hard isn’t? They totally depend on past “rules”, “stories” and hadith that you don’t know if its really coming from Muhammad himself. Some of them doesn’t make any sense and some obviously against Quran, so its question myself if all of them really coming from Muhammad? not to mention,there is possibility people from the past can make up stories by using his name after his death that “Muhammad do this,Muhammad do that”. There is also possibility that true stories can be spice up as time goes by and be changed completely. I stop seeing hadith, “stories”, “rules” because in Quran didn’t mention those and I believe in Quran only because that is what Allah promise and I choose to believe it. I stop doing those “compulsory” things that muslim must do few years ago. Almost all those “compulsory” things are against Quran. If muslims in my community know what I’m thinking,they for sure label me as apostasy and I wonder who is actually apostasy is. After I take seriously on Quran, I realize I shouldn’t care who apostasy is, it doesn’t matter, I realize people should have their rights to choose what their faith is, if people want to choose other religion,so be it,its their decision,respect that, they have their rights to choose their life. If they go to hell or heaven,its not human’s business,its Allah’s business. Human never have the right to judge on that matter at all or worst place the punishment. Be a muslim doesn’t mean you absolutely will go to heaven. Believe in Allah but never understand the thing in Quran,what is that for?

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      • I respect you. When you stand for the truth, you will never fall.
        I was shocked myself how I had closed my mind to the truth being within Islam. The moment I opened my mind and eyes, lo, all the truth is there.
        Hadith.-there are more than a quarter million of it that contradicts each other.
        Sunna. Muhammad changed so much from his earlier days to the later days. So much so that his words and thinking contradicts himself.
        Ironically. All the Nabi (Tawrah and Injil) know their calling and destiny clearly. Except? He claimed to be visited by devil until Khadijah insisted otherwise. And as a Nabi-SAW is not even sure of salvation unlike the other nabi. Just meditate into his philosophies and perceptions of nature – very carnal and primitive in nature. Truth hurts, that is why Islam is very protective and closed.
        Like you indicated, Islam is too much emphasized and controlled by human for human. Desire, fear,
        insecure, intimidate, control, etc.

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  26. I have seen many Muslims (and Sikhs as well) who have indulged in alcohol. The fact that there are so many who try to defend their religion and write of its prohibition is very strange. One only has to look in the newspaper to see names of middle eastern decent who have been caught driving under intoxication or other alcohol related crimes.
    The blog, to me, seems right on. To those who reply; don’t try and tell me that the Quran prohibits alcohol. To me the Muslim faith is a blind following of people who interpret the Quran, however they wish to interpret it. Amen to the blogger who is offering his interpretation.

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    • I dont think this blog was made for people who already enjoys the consumption of alcohol..but trying to poison the brains of those who dont..which is very degrading and pathetic.

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      • Yes Ayon. It’s all one big conspiracy. This whole blog with all the interesting stories, recipes and everything is all a scam. We really really really want to have teetotalers embrace the dark side. Now ask yourself who is pathetic.
        Cheers,
        Micky

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  28. I am a Muslim and I agree with Lord of the Drinks here about alcohol. I do this for four scriptural reasons.

    #1: The Qur’an is a perfect, precise, divine, miraculous book. Allah tells us that he forgot nothing in it, nor did he misspeak, nor did he add more than was right, nor was anything omitted. And in it, is said “He has forbidden you only dead animals, and blood, and the swine, and that which is slaughtered as a sacrifice for other than God.” (Quran 2:173) That sounds pretty simple and explicit to me. So no carrion, no blood, no pork, and nothing killed in the name of men, angels, demons, jinn, monsters, or false gods. See alcohol in that list? Negative.

    #2: Other prophets embraced the Qur’an most certainly did do some drinking. Now, one can argue that all the other scriptures are completely wrong at these points and that these people never sinned or made mistakes. However, since it is absurd to propose as such, and every human does sin, including prophets, these stories cannot be discarded. The famous example is that the first miracle of Isha, Jesus, was to turn water into wine while at a party. What do you think they did with it? And the Torah and the Psalms and the Gospels have many positive references to liquor.

    #3: The scriptures from the Qur’an about alcohol all spell out something: booze it not haram. There is indeed some benefit to it as something for use by man. After all, alcohols have uses such as making medicines, perfumes, industry, disinfection, and preserving food. The versus cited for prohibition actually tell us that one can drink, but be careful of how much and what you say.

    #4: Hadith are rated below the Qur’an. This relates to how God declared the Qur’an to be a complete, perfect work. Mohammed himself advised that his companions not quote him in relation to scripture, to only take the revelations from God as things to be remembered and recorded. The first century of Islam, the golden age, also featured a ban on Hadith.

    All said, excellent post, Lord of the Drinks. Slava Allahu! Allah Ackbar! Indeed, God is great! And I’ll drink to that.

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    • Brother, impressed by your open-mindedness towards alcohol. Would you dare to challenge yourself and be open-minded to read the Bible like I did. You will be shocked how this so- called ‘perfect’ Qur’an stand when compared to a very simple and despised bible. In term of truth, events, chronologies and the philosophies within. Brother, surely you can see either Muhammad or Jesus is a liar. Worth all my effort finding out and getting drunk in this Spirit!

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  29. As a proud Muslim, I’d like to say that I want to praise you for this post, woots! Because you have opened minds, indeed, you have.
    For one thing, I should add that I am not a Muslim who believes in the stories, and hadiths (although there are some I might as well read about, I just won’t put them anywhere above the Quran as most people do) – therefore I solely depend on the Quran. It is so much more liberating in that way. One way to view the Quran is very much like a guidebook from God. In fact, it is called the Criterion, therefore we Muslims are to compare our judgments to the words of God in the Quran.
    Now that I look back and read, it seems that alcohol can be consumed – but not to be completely intoxicated/drunk in/with – very much from how it is in Christianity. Very much as Brother Kalash has commented and how he put it down.

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    • Thank you very much for your kind words. I drew the same conclusion. Alcohol is allowed, praying drunk is not. In other words: alcohol consumption should be in moderation. It also makes sense since moderate alcohol consumption is healthy and makes you live longer. Why prohibit that?
      Greetings,
      Micky

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  30. I stopped reding ad “…/ replaces the gunshots in the middle east” which clearly shows that you believe that most Muslim live in the middle east and the fact that you are a racist idiot that believes that Middle East only containe violent and all the sterothype that the western imperialism has provided.

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  31. There is a tradition narrated by ‘Ali ibn Yaqtīn in the book al-Kāfi, wherein the Abbasid despot Mahdi asked Imam Musa al-Kadhim (a.s.) regarding wine, “Is wine Harām according to the Qur’an?” (Because) people know that it is prohibited but not aware that it is Harām.” Imam Musa al-Kadhim (a.s.) replied:

    “Wine is Harām according to the Divine book.”

    “At what place in the Qur’an is wine shown to be Harām?”

    Imam Musa al-Kadhim (a.s.) said,

    “In the following statement of Allah (S.w.T.),

    ‘Say, my Lord has only prohibited indecencies, those of them that are apparent as well as those that are concealed.’” (Surah al-Ar’āf 7:33)

    Imam (a.s.) further said,

    “As far as the apparent indecencies are concerned, they imply open adultery and ensigns that were hung outside the houses of prostitutes in the days of ignorance. ‘The concealed sin’ implies the sin of marrying the step mother after the death of the father as the people of the days of ignorance used to do. Allah has also ordered this act to be Harām. As far as sin is concerned, it is but “wine drinking”. At another point, Allah says,

    “They ask you about intoxicants and games of chance. Say: in both of them there is a great sin and means of profit for men, and their sin is greater than their profits.” (Surah al-Baqarah 2:219)

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  32. Great posts. i’d love to know if anyone here was around at the time of Muhamed to witness him not drinking or telling others it was bad, nope didnt think so, it’s all conjecture as is most history 🙂

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  34. Dear Lordsofthedrinks, you say that the term alcohol was introduced by the Abbasides. So, if Mohamed refers generally to alcohol he must have mentioned explicitely beer which he certainly knew by the proximity of the Sassanide empire. Apparently he did not. Why? In Turkey there is a popular believing that beer is not an alcoholic beverage in the religious sense because it is not explicitely mentioned in the Kor´an. I noticed that 40 years ago and since this experience troubled me. Best regards and felicitations for your refined analysis of the subject.

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    • Well, I don’t know why he never mentioned beer. Assaid the only thing we know is that he once asked for fermented wine. Maybe he didn’t really like beer, who can say.
      Thanks for dropping by.Cheers,
      Micky

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  35. This is the most deluded article ever! Whoever wrote this needs help. You’re not a Muslim and do not understand our religion. Alcohol is prohibited and these text prove it. Stop trying to beat around the bush and make assumptions it’s completely prohibited!

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    • No idea…. All I know is that it has happened before. A few years ago a Dutch soldier in Afghanistan shot a movie with night vision of a local fucking a goat and uploaded it on yt. Unfortunately for the freaks he was forced to take it down very soon after by the military.
      Also if you are interested in this kind of stuff. In Colombia it’s quite common to bang donkeys (link below). Hope this answer was of use Bill.
      Cheers,
      Micky

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  38. I have crosschecked the references. None of them is available in the Hadith recorded by Muslim. The following are found instead. They are not even related to the quotes.

    It is those who believe not in the Signs of Allah, that forge falsehood: it is they who lie! QURAN 16:105

    The Book of Transactions (Kitab Al-Buyu`)
    Muslim :: Book 10 : Hadith 3753
    Mujahid said to Tiwus: Come along with me to Ibn Rafi b. Khadij in order to listen from him the hadith transmitted on the authority of his father (pertaining to the renting of land) from Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him). He (Tawus) scolded him and said: By Allah, it I were to know that Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) had forbidden it, I would have never done it. But it has been narrated to me by one who has better knowledge of it amongst them (and he meant Ibn ‘Abbas) that Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: It is better if a person lends, his land to his brother (for cultivation) than that he gets recognised rent on it.

    The Book of Transactions (Kitab Al-Buyu`)
    Muslim :: Book 10 : Hadith 3721
    Jabir (Allah be pleased with him) reported Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) having forbidden Mukhabara.

    The Book of Transactions (Kitab Al-Buyu`)
    Muslim :: Book 10 : Hadith 3745
    Rafi (Allah be pleased with him) reported that Zuhair b. Rafi (who was his uncle) came to me and said: Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) forbade a practice which was useful for us. I said: What is this? (I believe) that whatrver Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) says is absolutely true. He (Zuhair) said that he (the Holy Prophet) asked me: What do you do with your cultivable lands? I said: Allah’s Messenger, we rent those irrigated by canals for dry dates or barley. He said: Don’t do that. Cultivate them or let them be cultivated (by others) or retain them yourself.

    The Book of Purification (Kitab Al-Taharah)
    Muslim :: Book 2 : Hadith 451
    ‘Uqba b. ‘Amir reported: We were entrusted with the task of tending the camels. On my turn when I came back in the evening after grazing them in the pastures, I found Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) stand and address the people. I heard these words of his: If any Muslim performs ablution well, then stands and prays two rak’ahs setting about them with his heart as well as his face, Paradise would be guaranteed to him. I said: What a fine thing is this! And a narrator who was before me said: The first was better than even this. When I cast a glance, I saw that it was ‘Umair who said: I see that you have just come and observed: If anyone amongst you performs the ablution, and then completes the ablution well and then says: I testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the servant of Allah and His Messenger, the eight gates of Paradise would be opened for him and he may enter by whichever of them he wishes.

    “And who does more wrong than he who invents a lie against Allah or rejects the Truth when it reaches him? Is there not a home in Hell for those who reject Faith?” QURAN 29:68

    “Those who annoy Allah and His Messenger – Allah has cursed them in this World and in the Hereafter, and has prepared for them a humiliating Punishment.” QURAN 33:57

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  39. Funny anaylsis .
    Please go throught Quran again if you Must .
    1st naration summary which came from Allah , dont use alchole , As its advantage are Far less then its defects.
    2nd came , dont use In Kabba during Salah .
    3rd commanded forbidden

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  40. All I know is this: I have met and conversed with a good number of Muslims during my life (including twenty years working in central Birmingham) (no Fox News jokes, please!). Many of these people were work colleagues who went on to become friends; and we would often have detailed discussions about Islam and its similarities to and differences from Christianity. I happen to think that what we have in common is more important than what divides us. (NB: I was educated in a Church of England school, but am not a practising Christian.)

    In this time, I came across one Muslim who admitted to taking drink, saying that he understood that his faith permitted alcohol as long as he did not become drunk. Others stuck to the more ‘orthodox’ view. Of those, I know of quite a few who would happily go out to the pub with non-Muslims, but would not take alcohol. Well, non-drinkers going to pubs is nothing unusual these days.

    As with all things, everyone is different, and everyone comes to their own accommodation with their God. Muslims are no different to everyone else in this respect, and when everyone accepts that, we’ll all live in a happier place.

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  41. O you who believe! Intoxicants (all kinds of alcoholic drinks), gambling, Al-Ansab, and Al-Azlam (arrows for seeking luck or decision) are an abomination of Shaitan’s (Satan) handiwork. So avoid (strictly all) that (abomination) in order that you may be successful.

    سورة ص:94
    ( ياأيها الذين آمنوا إنما الخمر والميسر والأنصاب والأزلام رجس من عمل الشيطان فاجتنبوه لعلكم تفلحون ( 90 ) إنما يريد الشيطان أن يوقع بينكم العداوة والبغضاء في الخمر والميسر ويصدكم عن ذكر الله وعن الصلاة فهل أنتم منتهون ( 91 )

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  43. Quran 16.67 “And of the fruits of the date palms and the grapes, you obtain alcoholic drinks and goods. Verily in that is a sign for a people who use their understanding.” This actually means that from the juices of the date palms and grapes, you can get what’s good and pure, and what turns to alcohol when it’s rotten. The people will choose whether they’ll obtain pure and healthy food from these or make alcohol to excite them and make them lose self-control. Clearly alcohol is actually being discouraged there!

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  44. This person is absolutly idiotic. Do not ask for the wrath of allah upon you. Knowlege and research is key to ‘understanding’.
    The beloved prophet (saw) and Aisha (pbuh) commented about nabeez which is a drink made of raisins (or dates). She would soak a cup of raisins in liter of water after isha and the prophet drank this (when blended) in the morning after breakfast. When there was leftovers it was thrown away otherwise it would turn alcoholic he warned; including not to keep it in earthen jars overnight because this speeds up the process of decomposing into alcohol.
    This person must take this post down. As for every person who follows this will be a sinner and worse for the person posting this rubbish; possibly because they have an addiction to alcohol themselves.
    Dont relate false assumptions to the prophet or the quran. Do not take them both out of context without relating it back to the hadith.
    Stay clean muslims and jannah will be easy.
    Take care

    Salam

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    • Sorry Zara, research shows that teetotalers die earlier than moderate drinkers and even heavy drinkers. If you want to die early that’s your choice but don’t tell others to stay away from a natural substance that can increase their time in this beautiful world.
      Cheers,
      Micky

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  46. Al-Maidah 5:90-91

    O you who have believed, indeed, intoxicants, gambling, [sacrificing on] stone alters [to other than Allah ], and divining arrows are but defilement from the work of Satan, so avoid it that you may be successful.

    Satan only wants to cause between you animosity and hatred through intoxicants and gambling and to avert you from the remembrance of Allah and from prayer. So will you not desist?

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  49. THIS IS PLAIN NONSENSE.Don’t go around honking about my religion and beloved (Prophet Sal Allaho Alayhi Wa Aleyhi Wa Sallam) specially when you do not know what to say.The information you are sharing is wrong!

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